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面对非议,瑞尔森大学取消小组讨论校园言论自由 [加拿大网评]

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瑞尔森大学最近取消了一个名为“大学被扼杀言论自由”的小组讨论活动。一些活动者认为该活动为法西斯主义者们提供了一个表达的平台,表示抗议。加拿大网友:瑞尔森大学应为向左派法西斯屈服而感到羞耻 ..如果演讲者没有“正确地思想”就不允许讨论言论自由……1984,我们来了……
Facing pushback, Ryerson University cancels panel discussion on campus free speech

面对非议,瑞尔森大学取消小组讨论校园言论自由【日期】2017年8月16日

Ryerson University has canceled a panel discussion called “The Stifling of Free Speech on University Campuses” following pushback from activists who said the event was giving a platform to fascists.

瑞尔森大学最近取消了一个名为“大学被扼杀言论自由”的小组讨论活动。一些活动者认为该活动为法西斯主义者们提供了一个表达的平台,表示抗议。

The event, which was set for August 22, was slated to feature controversial speakers including University of Toronto psychology professor Jordan Peterson, who rose to prominence after refusing to use students’ preferred pronouns, and journalist Faith Goldy, who works for the far-right Rebel Media. Behavioural scientist Gad Saad and psychologist Oren Amitay rounded out the roster.

这个活动原定于八月22日举行,并邀请了一些受争议的知名人物前来演讲,其中包括多伦多大学的心理学教授Jordan Peterson,因公开反对中性人称谓而备受关注的、以及为右翼反对派媒体工作的记者Faith Goldy。行为学家Gad Saad和心理学家Oren Amitay也在邀请名单之上。Jordan Peterson speaks to a group at the Carleton Place Arena on Thursday, June 15, 2017. Darren Brown / Ottawa Citizen/Ottawa Sun

2017.6.15,Jordan Peterson在卡尔顿竞技场发表演讲。

Ryerson Communications Director Michael Forbes cited safety concerns as the reason the event was shut down.

瑞尔盛大学的联络主管Michael Forbes称,该活动由于安全问题取消。

“After a thorough security review, the University has concluded that Ryerson is not equipped to provide the necessary level of public safety for the event to go forward,” he wrote in an emailed statement. “In light of recent events, Ryerson University is prioritizing campus safety.”

他在邮件中写道,“在进行了彻底的安全审查后,校方认为无法为该活动提供必要的公共安全保障。”“鉴于最近发生的一些事件,瑞尔森大学决定以校园安全为先。”

Christeen Elizabeth, one of the organizers of a planned rally against the event — “No Fascists in Our City!”, the Facebook event page for which originally featured a header photo of a crossed-out swastika, before the photo was changed Wednesday — said it was important to speak out against what she sees as violence against oppressed groups.

计划对该讨论会进行抗议活动的其中一位组织者,Christeen Elizabeth表示,“我们的城市不允许法西斯存在!“他们FaceBook的页面上以一个打了叉的万字旗作为头像,后来在周三换掉了它。Elizabeth在页面上声称,把所见的对被压迫群体施加的暴力公布出来,意义重大。

“Transphobia is violence, Islamophobia is violence. Violence is contextual,” she said. “We can’t be complicit in this.”

“对变性者、穆斯林的歧视是一种暴力行为。而暴力会产生连锁反应,”她说。“我们不应参与其中。”

Elizabeth said activists inundated Ryerson with calls and emails protesting the panel. She said she also collaborated with the school’s student union, who added to the pressure.

伊丽莎白表示,活动者们对讨论小组的抗议电话和邮件像海潮一样淹没了Ryerson。她还与参与施压的学校学生会合作。

It's a time to bloody well hope that everyone takes a deep breath and walks backwards a little bit from the edge of the abyss

在事态变得不可收拾之前,现在是让每个人都冷静下来各退一步的时候了。

Peterson said the cancellation is “an indication of the crazy absurdity that characterizes the current political situation. There’s an element of surrealism to it.”

另一方面,Peterson则认为讨论活动的取消“表明了当前政治形势的疯狂荒谬”,超现实得如同小说情节一般。

But he has increased sympathy for a safety argument, he said, given the “inflamed rhetoric” the protesters used.

但他又表示鉴于抗议者们使用了“愤怒的言辞”,他对“安全问题”的说法可以理解。

“I think there’s no excuse for what they’re doing, with the Nazi symbolism. It’s very, very dangerous to engage in that kind of casual vilification,” he said.

“我认为他们的行为根本无法解释,这样随便地污蔑他人为“纳粹”是很危险的做法”他说。

The group organizing the panel was thinking of delaying the event themselves because of the recent violence at the white supremacist march in Charlottesville.

因为最近在夏洛茨维尔由白人至上主义者引发的一系列暴力事件,讨论小组也正在考虑推迟自己的活动。

“We’re drifting into a scenario of increased polarization, and it’s not an advisable time to contribute to that, wittingly or unwittingly,” Peterson said.

“我们的社会正在加剧两极分化,不管你是有意还是无意,在这种时候给局势加火添油非常不理智。”彼得森说。

Elizabeth said she might have been a bit hasty to put the word “fascism” in the event title, but defended its use.

伊丽莎白亦不讳言,用“法西斯主义”这个词来形容这次活动可能过于轻率,但仍然为之辩护。

“The seeds of fascism, that’s how they start. It starts with this ‘othering’ of people,” she said. “Regardless of whether or not they themselves are preaching strict fascist ideology, who are they preaching to?”

“法西斯主义的种子,就是从排斥特定人群开始生根发芽,”她说。“无论他们是不是在宣传严格意义上的法西斯思想,他们是在向谁宣传呢?”

Elizabeth said she has received death threats as a result of protesting the panel. She sent a screenshot of one of them to the National Post, which said, “Im coming after your kids you bitch. You just wait.” She said her step-mother has received similar threats.

伊丽莎白说表示因组织这次抗议活动,她受到了死亡威胁。在她给国家邮报发送的一张截图上写着:“我要干掉你的孩子,碧池!”。她的继母也受到了类似的威胁。

“It really just goes to show what kind of calibre of people they are that they would do something like that,” Elizabeth said.

伊丽莎白说:“这就清楚地表明了他们是什么人,会做什么事。”。

The seeds of fascism, that's how they start. It starts with this 'othering' of people

法西斯主义的种子就是从排斥特定人群开始生根发芽

What happens next, Peterson said, “depends on how rapidly the positive feedback loop between extremists on both ends of the political spectrum expands, and how effectively sensible people in the middle are at dampening it.

Peterson说:“接下来会发生什么,要看两派极端分子间不断增加强度的循环对抗扩大的速度有多快,以及中立派的智者们能否有效地将其抑制。

“It’s like people are batting back and forth a bomb that gets bigger every time someone hits it,” he said. “They’re not attending to the fact that with each mischaracterization they alienate a larger part of the population. It’s a very bad idea.”

“就好像两个人用炸弹来打网球,每次有人击中它的时候,炸弹就会变得更大。他们不承认,每个污名化对手的行为会使他们离真正的民众意见越来越远。这实在不可取。”

Peterson repeatedly echoed U.S. President Donald Trump’s assertion that ideologues on both sides were responsible for violence.

Peterson多次引用美国总统唐纳德·特朗普的说法,称意识形态对立的双方都应为引起的暴力事件负责。

“It’s a time to bloody well hope that everyone takes a deep breath and walks backwards a little bit from the edge of the abyss,” he said, but noted that now was not the time to discuss the “sins of the radical left.”

“在事态变得不可收拾之前,现在是让每个人都冷静下来各退一步的时候了。要讨论‘激进左派的罪恶’的话,现在并不是时候。”

“The time right now is for denunciation of what occurred in Charlottesville,” he said.

“当务之急应该是去谴责夏洛茨维尔发生的事情,”他说.

Though the panel is no more, Elizabeth is still planning a rally. She said she’s reaching out to labour groups and looking to change the tone from anti-fascism to pro-diversity — “sort of celebrating the people that this forum panel was targeting.”

尽管讨论小组已经不复存在,伊丽莎白仍在筹划一次集会。她说,她正在与劳工组织接触,并打算将集会主题从反法西斯改为促进多元化——“可以说是被讨论组所针对的人们举行的庆祝”。

Peterson said he’ll talk with the other would-be panelists about potentially using another venue, though he’s still not sure the timing is right for the talk.

而另一方面,尽管不能确定举行讨论的时机是否恰当,彼得森说他将和其他可能的小组成员商量能否使用另一个场所举行讨论。

“We’re going to figure out what we can do that’s least harmful,” he said.”Let’s start with that.”

“我们要找出我们能做的什么是最无害的,”他说,“从这个开始。”

 

【以下是评论部份】
Yu Brown · 12 hrs 
Perfect Example of the self-righteous dictatorship of the left. Silence a legitimate professor that holds “unacceptable” views.

让一位持有“不当观点”的教授闭嘴——真是教科书般的左派独裁。

The left quashing free speech, forcing media, companies and even universities to stifle dissent, be eco-chambers of the lefty ideology. And then they wonder why people radicalize!!
But … but … they “love freedom of speech” … lol … suuuuuure !

左派压制言论自由,迫使媒体、公司甚至大学作为左撇子的意识形态温房,消除一切异见,但是他们不知道为什么人们激进!!
不过…不过…他们“热爱言论自由”…哈哈…我信了!

Tim Boyle · 11 hrs 
Agreed Yu, though it sounds like even Peterson was agreeing that now is not the time and Ryerson not the place to conduct the discussion. It is truly sad that although the Left appears well represented on the panel their activists seek not to win the debate but to end it peremptorily.

同意Yu的看法,虽然看来连Peterson本人也同意现在不适合进行讨论,也不适合在瑞尔森大学举行讨论。左派们的理念很能体现这个讨论主题,但他们不去尝试赢得辩论,而是强行取消活动,真是令人难过。

Kelly Stilling · 11 hrs 
Well said....C'mon people! Stifling speech is more Nazi/Marxist! Allow this man to speak and be free to debate, discuss & understand each other. Please don't destroy the freedom to think otherwise.

说的不错……大家要搞清楚!钳制言论是纳粹或马克思主义者的做法!【译:?】一个人应该可以自由地说话、辩论、讨论和理解彼此。请不要理所当然地破坏自由。

Claude DeRoche · 10 hrs 
My father got 13 bullets in his body in World War II
to combat these nazï b....ards why bring them back!

我父亲在二战中中了十三枪。
如果要与纳粹杂种们对抗到底的话,现在为什么又把他们弄回来!

Brian Vaselenak · Fort McMurray, Alberta · 10 hrs 
So True Yu. The Loony Lefties hate Free Speech. Unless it suits their Agenda.

说得对极了。除非刚好符合他们的心意,否则左派偏执狂们仇视一切言论自由。

Vladimir Smejkal · 9 hrs
@Kelly Stilling Hitler was eventually allowed to speak and the rest is history...

希特勒最终获得了发言的自由,后来的历史我们都知道了……

Jesika Voit · Calgary, Alberta · 9 hrs 
Vladimir Smejkal you set a dangerous precedent comparing this to that of Nazi Germany. It shows your complete disregard for polarization and it's inherent impact on society.

Vladimir Smejkal你将这个事情与纳粹德国相提并论,是作了一个危险的先例。这显示了你对两极分化以及它对社会的内在影响的全然漠视。

Doug McLeod · Victoria, British Columbia · 8 hrs 
Vladimir Smejkal That's why accepting it now is a mistake. Except for you Hitler types of course.

Vladimir Smejkal这就是这件事为什么不可接受的原因。当然了,除了你这种希特勒那一型的。

Norman Wells · 8 hrs
Claude DeRoche Which ones are you referring to?

Claude DeRoche 你说的纳粹混蛋具体是指?

Doug McLeod · Victoria, British Columbia · 8 hrs 
Claude DeRoche "My father got 13 bullets in his body in World War II
to combat these nazï b....ards why bring them back!"
I reject completely that any rational person would admit to being your father. You have no idea who he is.

Claude DeRoche说,“我父亲在二战中中了十三枪。
如果要与纳粹杂种们对抗到底的话,现在为什么又把他们弄回来!”
任何有理性的人都不会承认是你的爹,所以你根本不知道你爹是谁。

Ceiteach Mac Mathúna · 2 hrs 
Claude DeRoche Have you even listened to any of the people on this panel speak before? If you are going to claim they are "Nazi ba...rds", please provide evidence to back up your claim, or else you are no better than having extreme Nazi values yourself...

Claude DeRoche,你之前听过这个讨论组的人说的什么吗?如果一定要把他们称为“纳粹杂种”的话,就拿出你自己的证据来,否则只是证明了你才是纳粹……

Cole Jones · Works at Paper Street Soap Company · 53 mins 
Claude DeRoche my grandfather fought the Nazis too you a$$. None of these people are Nazis.

Claude DeRoche,你这个*,我爷爷也打过纳粹,我可以担保这些人可不是纳粹。

Arturo Daly · 12 hrs 
Ha ha, we will shut down the voice of the fascists by being fascists before they can be fascists. The glaring hypocrisy of the hysterical left.

哈哈,我们将会以法西斯的手段来遏制法西斯,虚伪得多么光明正大。

Claude DeRoche · 10 hrs 
We should not opress neo nazï white suprematists,
we need to jail them, no matter what the Hïtler/Putin lovers think.
No need to repeat the errors in Germany in the 30's.
We won World War II didn't we?
It's no secret that president Putin and president Bannon 
want to destroy the USA!

我们不应该压制这些新纳粹白人至上主义者,
而是要把他们关进监狱,无论希特勒跟普京的崇拜者们要怎么想。
不要重复30年代对德国犯下的错误。
我们不是赢得了第二次世界大战吗?
普京总统和班农总统想毁灭美国
已经不算什么秘密!

Glyn Lewis · Sherwood Park, Alberta · 11 hrs 
Claude DeRoche Adolf Hitler very effectively shut down freedom of speech, so why would we cheer it 80 years later.

Claude DeRoche ,因为阿道夫希特勒有效地控制了言论自由,所以我们80年后要庆祝他的倒台。

Rick Edmonds · 11 hrs 
Claude DeRoche take your meds and come back to reality.

Claude DeRoche,吃点药吧。

Kyle Anders · Waterloo, Ontario · 10 hrs 
Claude DeRoche spoken like a true fascist.

Claude DeRoche看起来就是个铁杆法西斯。

Richard McIntyre · Ottawa, Ontario · 10 hrs 
Claude DeRoche You're one gross, ugly cuck, Claude.

Claude DeRoche,你真是个恶心的傻鸟。

Winnie Holland · 9 hrs 
Claude DeRoche so the panellists are nazis?? You are delusional.

Claude DeRoche,认为讨论组成员都是纳粹?你真是个妄想狂。

Everett Duncan · Austin, Texas · 8 hrs 
Claude DeRoche Please seek out and return with anything, anything at all, offensive and disrespectful Peterson has said. Good luck with your journey.

Claude DeRoche,说话请拿出依据,什么依据都行,这可是那个混蛋Peterson说的,祝你好运。

Chris DiCesare · Hamilton, Ontario · 12 hrs 
this has nothing to do with 'othering' fascism or any other derogatory phrasing - this all about stifling political dissent that is critical of ideas of the protestors nothing more nothing less - I wonder if they see the irony of their actions - the viccrat is alive and welll at Ryerson, but as I have read recently Ryerson has a problem with tolerance of voices they dont agree with - seems our SJWs are terrified of independent thinking and articulation of ideas 
wonder if it isnt time to for an investigation into the fascism that exists in the adminsitration at Ryerson

这与排斥“法西斯主义”或其他贬义措辞无关,抗议者们完全是为了压制政治异见者——不知道他们能否看到自己行为的讽刺意义——viccrat本来在瑞尔森校园里好好地【译:viccrat没查明白,望指正】,但就我最近所知,瑞尔森似乎不能容忍异见的存在,看来社交媒体上的正义战士们似乎害怕独立思考与表达思想呢。
不知道现在适不适合去查一下瑞尔森大学官方里有没有法西斯呢。

Claude DeRoche · 11 hrs 
Hitler said exactly that in the 30's with a consequence.

三十年代希特勒也是这么对人说的,引起了一些后果。

Glyn Lewis · Sherwood Park, Alberta · 11 hrs 
@Claude DeRoche Hitler effectively shut down free speech!

@Claude DeRoche希特勒完全地掌控了言论!

Andrew Swan · 10 hrs 
@Claude DeRoche I do not believe Hitler said anything about the administration at Ryerson University. I hereby call your bluff, sir.

@Claude DeRoche 我倒不信希特勒对瑞尔森大学校方有什么看法,你在瞎吹。

John Edward · 10 hrs 
@Andrew Swan It's not a bluff, just a mindless troll being his usual a$$hole self.

@Andrew Swan 他不是在瞎吹,只是在进行一个脑残喷子的日常修养。

Everett Duncan · Austin, Texas · 8 hrs 
@Claude DeRoche Really?! Prove it, go ahead and give us that exact quote or translation. Good luck with that.

@Claude DeRoche 是吗?证明一下,去找些具体的证据回来吧,祝你好运。

Dennis Egan · Works at Freedom 55er · 12 hrs
Ryerson should lose its status as a University and go back to being a Community College if it cannot manage to hold an adult discussion on the relevant issues of the day. C Elizabeth should get an F for providing rhetoric nonsense and nothing of substance in her argument against the event.

如果连就近日的热点展开一场成年人间的讨论都做不到的话,瑞尔森也不必自称大学了,还是做社区学院吧。C Elizabeth在这一系列的抗议活动中,凭借着花言巧语和空洞的虚言,可以拿一个”F”。

Claude DeRoche · 11 hrs 
May be better to hold it in Moscow or SA (among friends).
A sword dance would be awesome.  :-)

讨论会可以考虑在莫斯科或者沙特阿拉伯举行(那里有更多的朋友)
还可以来场剑舞助助兴(笑)

John Edward · 9 hrs 
Ryerson has never been a university except in official nomenclature

瑞尔森只是被官方命名为大学,其实从来就没够格。

Shawn Burstyn · U of Alberta · 12 hrs 
No problem. As long as the agenda involves anti Israel or antiesemetic rhetoric, all is well on Ryerson campus.

没什么问题,只要校园议程包含反以色列或者反宗教修辞,瑞尔森校园一切安好。

Mo Jones · 12 hrs 
So, alt-left fascism shuts down a perfectly legitimate discussion on free speech by intimidating our cowardly public leaders. The rule of law is dead. Fascism has already won.
Ryerson and Canada should be thoroughly ashamed of this action.

所以说,极左法西斯通过恐吓我们胆怯的公共领导人,结束了一场关于言论自由的完全合法的讨论。法治已死。法西斯主义已经赢了。
美国和加拿大应该为此羞愧。

Lewis Rossman · Ottawa, Ontario · 11 hrs 
Ryerson University should be embarrassed and ashahed for caving in to the leftist fascists..Even discussing free speech is no longer acceptable if the speakers are not Right Thinking.. 1984 here we come..

瑞尔森大学应为向左派法西斯屈服而感到羞耻 ..如果演讲者没有“正确地思想”就不允许讨论言论自由……1984,我们来了……

John Edmonstone · West Hill Secondary School · 7 hrs 
1984 here we are.

1984,我们到了。

Franco Prairie · Works at Self-Employed · 11 hrs 
The media and the left are virtually at war with anyone who opposes the destruction of north american values, traditions and history.
Like islamic terrorist they're resorting to bring down statutes, monuments who causes them to retrieve to safe spaces.
What will they do next, bomb to pieces entire historical buildings, like their terrorists ISIS cousins did with ancient sacred sites?
Crazy times.

左派与媒体们实际上在与所有维护北美传统、历史和价值观的人交战。
像伊斯兰恐怖分子一样,他们运用法规,给将他们带到安全的地方的人们立碑。
他们接下来是不是会像ISIS炸掉古圣地那样去轰炸整座历史建筑?
真是疯狂的时代。

Doug McLeod · Victoria, British Columbia · 7 hrs 
Simple solution - Director Michael Forbes gets fired. If a person running a University cannot guarantee free speech on it's very grounds, one of the most fundamental and principal requirements of a University he is clearly useless in that role. Leaving Forbes in that position is like keeping a pilot on that can't fly. Get rid of him and put someone in who can do the job. Happens every day in the real world. Simply punt him for cause and bring in someone who can do the job. A secondary benefit, would be that I'd be willing to bet that every other University Director in the Country would up their game to the same level almost immediately

我有一个简单的解决方法,就是把校主管Michael Forbes给炒了。言论自由是大学最基本也是最重要的要求之一,一个人经营管理大学却不能保证大学的言论自由,那就是摆设,留着他就像留着一个不会飞的飞行员一样,干脆把Michael Forbes推出去顶罪了事,再换一个能干事的人来。此外还有一个好处,就是可以让加拿大其他大学的主管们引以为戒。

Doug McLeod · Victoria, British Columbia · 11 hrs 
"“The seeds of fascism, that’s how they start. It starts with this ‘othering’ of people,” she said.
Yes, because nothing fights fascism like stopping any discussion on or preventing ideas and speech from seeing the light of day that don't mirror your own. And nothing exacerbates the "othering of people" quite like suggesting that those who believe in free speech are Nazi's. A perfect example of Orwells "Doublespeak" but I'd be willing to think she is either too obtuse or too uneducated to even know what it is. You don't know whether to laugh at her imbecility or cry at the fact that she apparently doesn't understand that she is the problem - totalitarianism on the rise. 70 years ago we went to war against people like Christeen Elizabeth, now they are in our Universities.

她说:“法西斯主义的种子就是从排斥特定人群开始生根发芽,”。
是的,因为没有人会以压制异见的做法去反法西斯主义,这是最“排斥他人”的法西斯范例,而这些人正是乔治奥维尔所说的“两面派”。但我宁愿相信她出于无知并不知道自己在做什么。最让人感到哭笑不得的是,她正是自己所抗议的“大问题”。在70年前,我们与Christeen Elizabeth这类人斗争,而现在他们却成了我们的大学同学。

Vladimir Smejkal · 9 hrs
You morons have ideas no decent human being is interested in hearing, whence the ban. Live with it old man...

什么禁令,正常人类都不想听这些白痴的想法,忍着点吧,老古董…

John Edward · 9 hrs
Vladimir Smejkal If no one was interesting in hearing other ideas there would be no need to ban them. Live with it, child.

Vladimir Smejkal ,如果没人想听他人想法的话就无需禁止了,忍着点吧,小鬼。

Doug McLeod · Victoria, British Columbia · 8 hrs
Vladimir Smejkal When you achieve the intellect and knowledge to qualify you as a decent human being, give us a call. You're a long way from it yet.

Vladimir Smejkal 当你达到人类应有的最低限度的智能和知识的时候再来联系我们,现在还差得远呢。

Cole Jones · Works at Paper Street Soap Company · 58 mins
Vladimir Smejkal ah yes, Vladimir. The other board troll. Haven't seen you in a while, where have you been? Busy with your GRU handler?

Vladimir Smejkal 好啊,又一个论坛喷子。好久不见了,到哪去啦?领你的5卢布去了吗?

Jim Patterson · 11 hrs 
.. another day of being embarrassed to say I am a Canadian!!

……又是让我羞于承认是加拿大人的一天!!

Vladimir Smejkal · 10 hrs
No need to be embarrassed, you're not a Canadian...

你并不是加拿大人,所以不用害羞……

Brian Vaselenak · Fort McMurray, Alberta · 10 hrs
Vladimir Smejkal you should move back to China

Vladimir Smejkal 你早点回中国吧(译:?)

Denis Barker · 11 hrs
Although I disagree with Peterson, she should not be barred from expressing her ideas in a public forum. Her critique of politically correct gender pronouns is particularly relevant given her gender ambiguous Christian name, Jordan.

尽管我不赞同Peterson的看法,但不应该禁止她在公共论坛上发表自己的言论。特别是她对政治正确的性别代词的批判非常重要,因为她那性别模糊的教名:Jordan。

Doug McLeod · Victoria, British Columbia · 8 hrs
Jordan Peterson is a male. Unconfused, evident, and outward, even dressing the part with no mental issues and recognized as one of the best minds in Canada. You should be so lucky.

Jordan Peterson可是个男性,有着清晰的头脑,有品位的穿着,还被认为是加拿大最聪明的人之一,你可没有那么幸运。

Steve White · Crusty SOB at Retired · 10 hrs
You must feel awfully stupid by now, eh?

你现在一定觉得自己很蠢吧?

Sandi Nickerson · 10 hrs 
Doug McLeod, Denis knows full well that Peterson is a man, he's purposely misgendering him to make a silly point, not realizing that Peterson is on record saying he would willingly address a trans man as he and a trans woman as she. People like Denis don't listen to Peterson beyond headlines and regurgitated bs so he doesn't actually grasp Petetson's point beyond what he imagines it to be.

Doug McLeod, Denis很清楚Peterson是个男人,只是故意乱用称谓来表达他的傻瓜观点。他不知道Peterson曾表示乐意用“他”和“她”来称呼变形人。像Denis这样的人看媒体新闻只会看标题,而根本不去了解实际内容,所以要对他们想象中的Peterson观点狠喷一番。

Doug McLeod · Victoria, British Columbia · 8 hrs
Sandi Nickerson I fully realise that. I intended to make that clear in my statement but perhaps I wasn't clear enough.

Sandi Nickerson ,我完全了解这一点,也许在我的发言中没表现出来。

Denis Barker · 6 hrs
Sandi Nickerson When Peterson became the face of opposition to Bill C-16, she wandered into my bailiwick. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, in her academic background, her professional or personal experience to lend legitimacy to her odious position that society would be harmed by extending legal protection against discrimination and criminal hatred to transgendered Canadians. She is nothing more than a girl with an opinion, without expertise, with respect to human rights, hate crime and gender identity. For the record, I'm at least as familiar with her work as a psychologist and media slut as anyone else here.

Sandi Nickerson ,当Peterson明确表示反对C-16法案的时候,我就盯上她了。这没什么大不了的,真没什么大不了——她的学术职业背景以及丰富的履历给了她一个可恶的合法地位,让她能扩展法律,保护那些针对变性者的歧视与犯罪,进而伤害社会而已。她只不过是一个在人权、仇恨犯罪和性别认同方面缺乏见解的女孩。我跟心理学家和无良媒体一样,完全了解她干了什么。

Cole Jones · Works at Paper Street Soap Company · 57 mins
Denis Barker sigh....

Denis Barker ,唉……

Carlo Cosolo · Richmond Hill, Ontario · 11 hrs 
All I know is that I'm ashamed to say I went to Ryerson

我只知道我羞于承认在瑞尔森上过大学。

Peter Poutine · Works at Self-Employed · 5 hrs
And I'm proud I didn't. Mind you in my day, Tyerson was as well respected as "Trump University" or Rotten Ronnie's "Hamburger U", a place to learn secretarial skills. Probably is now, as well.

而我很高兴我不是。你要留意,有一天瑞尔森会像“川普大学”或者“麦当劳汉堡大学”一样,变成一个学习当小秘的好地方,也许现在已经是了。

Glyn Lewis · Sherwood Park, Alberta · 11 hrs 
"Ryerson University has canceled a panel discussion called “The Stifling of Free Speech on University Campuses” following pushback from activists who said the event was giving a platform to fascists."
If someone knows of more ironic paragraph than this one, I'd like to see it.

“瑞尔森大学取消了一个名为‘’校园言论自由的沉寂‘’的讨论活动”
因为活动者抗议它给了法西斯主义者一个发言的空间“
还有比这更有讽刺的吗。

Eddie Sweet · Works at Retired · 11 hrs +6
Once again the lefty educational system folds to the alt-left.

左倾的教育系统又一次倒向了暴力左派。

 

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